1945 accepting BANNED players

MaMere

Thank you for responding, kuilin .

I think there is a lot of bristling, when “remove your admins” language is used. Even if it seems reasonable based on the rules as stated. The rules assume that all “banned” accounts are banned for reasons that are both supported by evidence and are justified .

However, many do not know the history of the flagrant use of the power of “banning “ and the lack of any real transparency of that action, nor do they care.

Once “banned”, apparently a person is ineligible for any admin position in any war farming alliance, in perpetuity, if I understand the language of the rules. Is that correct?

If that is correct, then 1945 cannot continue as a part of this group simply because our core leadership cannot be “removed” per the “rules”. I am sure this is what Jashan wished to express.

However, if there is a possibility of exemptions for those who have shown no actions , or support, for whatever it is that is feared by the others here, perhaps there can be a way?

Btw, for full disclosure. I also have a ban from FWA. A sync ban. And yes, after many years it was suggested I “appeal” this ban. This turn out to be quite the circus, since there was zero evidence to support the ban, and therefore nothing I could refute. During the entire several years the ban has been in place, I have been the leader of my clans and have helped whatever alliance we were in.

I didn’t know it was even possible to appeal a ban that doesn’t appear on your account. Turns out, it isn’t.

Mamere

#J8YLYJJY

Should I also be removed?

Anubhav

MaMere However, many do not know the history of the flagrant use of the power of “banning “ and the lack of any real transparency of that action, nor do they care.

Yes, there have been unnecessary bans but i do know why Jashan was banned. I do know why Vipul was banned. I do know why Darahass was banned and each ban was legit.

I don't think there should be any exemptions at all. There is BAN sharing agreement. Either 1945 follows the agreement or it doesn't, can't go both ways.

Anubhav

MaMere Btw, for full disclosure. I also have a ban from FWA. A sync ban. And yes, after many years it was suggested I “appeal” this ban. This turn out to be quite the circus, since there was zero evidence to support the ban, and therefore nothing I could refute. During the entire several years the ban has been in place, I have been the leader of my clans and have helped whatever alliance we were in.

I didn’t know it was even possible to appeal a ban that doesn’t appear on your account. Turns out, it isn’t

For your information, what you're referring to is called Rep-Ban. That depends upon each and every league. You probably have a rep ban from FWA and it's their decision to whether allow you or not. It has nothing to do with CCNS

MaMere

Anubhav your response ignores the fact that my “rep ban” issued by FWA extended to OLFD and there was an effort to extend it into both BLZM FD , and FWL. If I recall correctly, there was also an effort to extend this ban into Griffon Farmers when they were functioning.

So it seems your information may not be quite complete. A great deal of aggravation and other retaliation type actions were suffered by each alliance on my behalf. Your dismissive tone may not be QUITE so appropriate as you seem to think.

Anubhav

We expect 1945 to follow all the rules. It will be sad if 1945 decides to quit the system but I'll still wish you luck for future

Anubhav

MaMere It always depends upon each league whether they allow or they do not. That's not a dismissive attitude but the truth.

You were banned to be rep from FWA and there is no such rule that prohibits anyone from being rep across all farming leagues under ccns unless they are Flagged or BANNED.

A league can request other leagues to not allow a certain someone but final call is by league admins. Like here in case, we are asking to remove BAN people from staffs but Final call is by your league administration. Whether to remove them or maybe do what you've been "Threatning" to do

You weren't banned

You weren't disallowed because of a provision.

That's just FWA's diplomatic soft power which stopped you being rep in any league. Please understand the difference in both of the cases. Your issue is a problem of your own but the case we are talking concerns CCNS as whole.

Shavy

kuilin Does Jashan speak for 1945 officially here?

Yes, he and @MaMere will be responding only in this case. I am out due to some reasons

kuilin Threatening to leave is not useful

This apply to people who are threatening here with word "remove your admins". Jashan and Vipul is base of FWL FD and cannot be removed. Can you justify @kuilin vipul's ban here for new admins here also is it a legit league ban according to you?

Aurora

DiViNE Darahass

MaMere We will not be removing them. This is final. Destroying our alliance is not an option.

Nothing left to say now .

There is no meaning to favorise Darahaas as his appeal was rejected for being associated with the hunting alliance which is against the rules and does not qualify for the Clash War Farming Alliance (Kuilin) Staff:-

https://forum.chocolateclash.com/d/8-8rcyqp088

Shavy Jashan and Vipul is base of FWL FD and cannot be removed

No more words are needed to clarify Jashan, he himself agree that he was against a alliance that comes under Clash War Farming (for whatever reason, ((Whatever the reason doesn't matter, directly FWL used to say BZLM-FD but indirectly they are hurting GFL as well BZLM. Jashan supports hunters openly and financially. No straight point to qualify for the Clash War Farming Alliance (Kuilin) Staff:-

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https://forum.chocolateclash.com/d/21-1945-accepting-banned-players/48

Shavy Jashan and Vipul is base of FWL FD and cannot be removed

Jashan vipul ban was for tricking kuilin system. when someone was trying to search MFL clans in chocolate clash our league entry page popup

Vipul made unauthorized changes to the Clash War Farming Tool (Chocolate Clash), which is used to track players and clans stats It also does not qualify for the Clash War Farming Alliance (Kuilin) Staff:-

(Also, there are other claims that he was also associated with the hunting alliance with the name MoMo, I'm sure after seeing the evidence given by the other)

https://forum.chocolateclash.com/d/21-1945-accepting-banned-players/43

MaMere WE wrote and approved the rules, and WE can reconsider

"WE" stand by for all we need to discuss within us, we will worry and finally consensus. Alternatively when you get stuck in the rules yourself which means you are not allowed to make changes

MaMere I have also personally known individuals who have been happy to manufacture evidence when it suits them to do so, and therefore , while I suspect you thought you held an ACE with your “evidence” , it does not have the force you expected.

And you have no right to say that the evidence is wrong manually, you have to show your proof to say that the other evidences are wrong.

MaMere FWL to keep our core admins

Well, if Jashan comes under the core admins of the alliance why not added him to the interleague discussion, not even in any CC/CCNS discussion, every core Admin's has the right to be involved

I don't say that the evidence says whatever is given publicly

Everything is in public format, even you don't have the right to say that.

My Decision final remove those involved Staff's either you have to leave

Kirito

Yes, let's disregard the fact that Vipul was Momo!!!! Yay!

Jashan

Kirito we are waiting for your proof🙂 btw as far I know on that time you was not on band even I was not in band app and do you really think if their was any reality leagues should take action against him but they didn’t do it’s means your claim is false

If you have any proof please upload here🙂

Jashan

Kirito vipul was staff in FWA before moving to MFL and FWL ( please get all info about ) and you don't know anything you're just saying as someone told you write here

Cadbury

Shavy I would request you to add proof along if you have anything to say against anyone

Jashan we are waiting for your proof

Okay Jashan, I didn't want to public this for obvious reasons but since you and shavy asked for it. Take it then

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Here you can see Witch B mentioning that Vipul helped her learning IPs

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Here evergrey mentions momo is Vipul.

You could call it false but Witch B mentioning that Vipul helped her and in the same chat Evergrey mentions that Vipul was Momo????

Apart from this, Let me bring another incident. I have been in AFW ever since it was created by Villian and the others, there was an old AFW band which was public and Green crown of that band was with Momo...And Momo came to give grey crowns to all of the admins (including myself) there he did accept he was Vipul and hid the message.

There are many references of Vipul being momo. Here are they

- https://band.us/band/61888800/post/9988

- https://band.us/band/61888800/post/9663

I think it's enough to prove Vipul was Momo.

Jashan

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Jashan

Cadbury After thoroughly going through all the "evidence" as you may call it which you have presented I see no clarity on the subject matter on hand there is nothing in those "evidences" of yours that proves YOUR FALSE CLAIMS of Vipul being MOMO or whatever gibberish name that is but what it does proves is my innocence as you can see it has been clearly mentioned in this screenshot so thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me prove my innocence Image description

Jashan

Anubhav in want to add one point for you, who posted this post please tell him just to show he is admin don't start pointing on someone and as you said you are GFL head now let me tell me my some past relationship with GFL admin in old olfd (old olfd now days GFL). me and DIA work together on some cases to reduce hunters in OLFD GFL. when MFL was made (if you don't know about MFL ask from …. won't say his name you know it already) in MFL Death was help us and guide us even after getting my ban DEATH told me that I can join GFL and they will help me to remove my ban and that was my decision to do not join back and my ban was from FWA and now FWA ban players clans getting part of other league so your admin topic was useless to pointing me and vipul ban was for tricking kuilin system. when someone was trying to search MFL clans in chocolate clash our league entry page popup if you want more discussion take a appointment and make a group call with our staff and between your staff to clear all doupts. i felt sad never expect this post from GFL well real owners real head's left now unmatured kids are running this league when in the starting get power this happens

Anubhav

Jashan Well, Jashan. I'm far more mature than you and I don't need to prove that. Anyways moving ahead...You did brought your relations with OLD OLFD but you forgot to mention what you did against GFL

You were paying people to stalk GFL and BZLM. Even tried to destroy our Alliance.

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You were collaborating with Evergrey and tried so hard to destroy but failed because groups like AFW didn't support you.

In CCNS ADMINs discussion, everything was talked in details (If allowed i can share whole chat here)

Jashan, i heard you helped us earlier but you changed after MFL decided to shut its doors and went to hunting side.

https://band.us/band/61888800/post/9663

Whatever you did was back in 2018 but after MFL you started stalking and was banned by FWA for stalking (Which was absolutely fair)

Vipul was banned for malicious attacks on CC indeed but in the above chats Cadbury shared clearly showed his involvement with FCH and the stalkers.

FWL supporting Darahass still kind of shows that the side of supporting stalkers hasn't gone yet.

Vipul was Momo

Darahass an admin of UH

Jashan who paid people for stalking GFL and got aligned with UH.

What else do we need to talk about?

Jashan

Anubhav oh my god I was forget my bad you have issue because AFW told you to do that and let me tell you about which post you’re talking about on that time BZLM and GFL was getting merge and they was adding bubbles their I was against bubbles and I talked with insurgent on call almost half hour about it and On that time was cwl going on and yeah I am saying openly to bring grey to kind a make pressure on gfl to not take bubble as staff and why I was saying death was knowing my concern and he was agree with me

Kui please tell GFL new staff first ask from your old admins what internally how many things we discussed and stop sharing fake info

And that’s will be better they don’t talk on that matter when they don’t know the reality and I never poster single sync of GFL on that band or ever any other platform and this thing knew everyone

So please do not try to show oversmart please do not say anything when you don’t know the reality 😂😂😂

#bringbackdeath-and-dia #kick-noob-staff-of-GFL😂😂😂

Anubhav

Jashan Just enough of all of this. I was in GFL when all of this...

After all this discussion, 1945 should tell one last time, is 1945 going to remove those three staffs or not?

Jashan

Anubhav

No remove

ilham

(1945 Head)

Anubhav

After all of these discussions, I don't think 1945 is interested in collaborating with other leagues. I think 1945 should be removed and i vote for their removal

ShiningKnight

I've went through all the conversations and I'm also voting for their removal as 1945 doesn't seems to co-operate.

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